diff --git a/start_caQtDM b/start_caQtDM
index ff2525fec07daf3d07dcf7e7bbcfb487327ed76a..69d5d61e175ad3917db78be7ec2ee7766e775a0b 100755
--- a/start_caQtDM
+++ b/start_caQtDM
@@ -29,6 +29,9 @@ endif
 if ( ${?ASYN} ) then
 	setenv QTDMDP ${QTDMDP}:${ASYN}/opi/caqtdm
 endif
+if ( ${?ALIVE} ) then
+	setenv QTDMDP ${QTDMDP}:${ALIVE}/aliveApp/op/ui
+endif
 if ( ${?AUTOSAVE} ) then
 	setenv QTDMDP ${QTDMDP}:${AUTOSAVE}/asApp/op/ui
 endif
diff --git a/start_caQtDM_APSshare b/start_caQtDM_APSshare
index 97ae193a7ebf3cdccce939f7b738f71677d1bea2..2e09d9468a0faf368ab2454e4e94d84197693185 100755
--- a/start_caQtDM_APSshare
+++ b/start_caQtDM_APSshare
@@ -30,6 +30,9 @@ endif
 if ( ${?ASYN} ) then
 	setenv QTDMDP ${QTDMDP}:${ASYN}/opi/caqtdm
 endif
+if ( ${?ALIVE} ) then
+	setenv QTDMDP ${QTDMDP}:${ALIVE}/aliveApp/op/ui
+endif
 if ( ${?AUTOSAVE} ) then
 	setenv QTDMDP ${QTDMDP}:${AUTOSAVE}/asApp/op/ui
 endif
diff --git a/start_epics_xxx.bash b/start_epics_xxx.bash
index 4db532c6ad56982af30a28a832d2776f2ddd1494..0ad5468ce287ca55f5713074accf783e821715d3 100755
--- a/start_epics_xxx.bash
+++ b/start_epics_xxx.bash
@@ -18,6 +18,7 @@ function append_EDP { # note: in bash, macros are not expanded in aliases
 }
 EDP=.
 append_EDP  ${EPICS_APP_ADL_DIR}
+append_EDP  ${ALIVE}/aliveApp/op/adl
 append_EDP  ${AREA_DETECTOR}/ADApp/op/adl
 append_EDP  ${AUTOSAVE}/asApp/op/adl
 append_EDP  ${BUSY}/busyApp/op/adl